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Lil Fame Releases OFFICIAL Statement Regarding Beat Jacking Allegations

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Since we initially broke the news of the alleged “beat jacking” accusations towards Lil Fame (of M.O.P.) by Philly producer Kil, I have been working day and night to get an official response from Fame himself. A few hours ago, I was contact by Dan Green (manager of Termanology and owner of ClockWork Music) stating that Lil Fame wanted to officially address this issue. Dan and I have had a working relationship for about a year, so I trust his word as a mediator to this situation.

Hit the jump for Lil Fame’s official statement and my conclusion to this matter…

From Lil Fame:

Its true I didn’t do the beat “Rude Bastards” as Kil said….I heard it, it was hot and I rhymed on it…I’d never steal a beat, that’s not me…and the quote on the net is not from me I’m looking into who made that statement as me

Laze (M.O.P’s manager) was handling the credits, I gave him the info for who did the beat.

I just saw the finished artwork and my 1st comment was, “I didn’t do that beat why does it say I did”? (Ref. To “rude bastard”)

-Lil Fame aka Fizzy Womack of M.O.P.

As Lil Fame states, the mix up seems to be with the handling of the credits by M.O.P’s manager, thus releasing Fame from any responsibility.

To wrap things up, let’s think about a few questions:

  • Lil Fame admits to rhyming over the beat. Does his statement make up for the fact that Kil was not credited?
  • Does the above statement change your view of the situation and of Lil Fame?
  • Does it change your opinion on how we reported the allegations?
  • If you feel we were in the wrong, how could we have changed our approach?

In the coming days, we will present to you an article on how producers can take steps to avoid a similar situation and what legal recourse they have if it does happen to them. Stay tuned!

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  • Admbmb

    I don’t know. I want to believe he didn’t write that OG response, but this explanation is pretty weak. Did they buy the beat/ask for permission? Nope.

    After the cd artwork was printed, etc. did Lil Fame go out of his way to make it right? Nope.

    Suggestion: they could make up for it and quell this by helping Kil get some placement (on an album of somebody else they know) and issue a joint statement from the both of them that everything is cool between them.

    You guys did your thing on the reporting. What the hell is that DJ Premier blogspot doing trying to front that it is somehow affiliated with him? Weird.

  • http://blog.cosmicsoulscollective.com knowjuander

    This situation could’ve been handled ALOT better… and a bit more professionally (not pertaining to the post though). I’m trying to figure out how cats just letting THEIR albums get released with these kind of “errors” – There is no way that a BP3 or a FE album gone drop and the cred be wrong. That leads me to believe that either niggas lost sight of quality control OR that this is the reply to be expected and the beat was seriously stolen… either way… it’s a BAD LOOK. Why waste time even doing music if you’re not going to make sure ALL aspects of your released are golden before it’s packaged and released… just saying.

    -know

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Justin

    I think this was the proper response. People think the artists are writing these credits themselves and it’s not true, especially vets like MOP. I think it is very possible pressing for the album already began and there was no going back from there. Either way, Fame admits it wasn’t him and isn’t saying FUCK YOU, TOO BAD like this “dj premier blog comment” was. In the end, this could be great for a guy like Kil. Honestly, he would’ve been just another name on the credits had none of this album but now he’s got a certain exposure.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Kevin

    Thanks Admbmb. I asked if Fame would be interested in working with Kil in the future, since he obviously liked his work. And I also forwarded Kil’s info so that Fame can address him personally.

    I guess we’ll have to wait and see if Kil is satisfied with this response and if anything materializes for him from this situation.Kil got his beat placed on an M.O.P. album and this response is proof of credit. Hopefully this will only open doors for him. We all live and learn.

  • Mike

    I just wonder if the error wasn’t caught by Kil himself would MOP even care or do anything about it? as far as the handling. Sometimes you do go off quickly Kev. The only thing I can say is have proof when you go at somebody and it seems like you were sure about Kil and the evidence so all you can do is bring it out bring it out.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Kevin

    Thanks Mike, I appreciate that. I agree that I let my emotions get the best of me at times, but I tried to handle this situation very carefully even though I was very confident in the proof I had. I have definitely learned from past mistakes! lol

  • Admbmb

    This really shows how frustrating it is to make beats and “make it”. A lot of higher profile artists do not want tagged or watermarked beats to demo and if you come at someone speaking all kind of legalese you may get the gas face. Personally, I would gladly give M.O.P. and many other big artists my beats for free if all I got in return was credit for making the beat (think Chamillionaire and Wax/EOM situation). I wish a lot of artists would tear down the barriers and make it a win-win for up-and-coming beatsmiths and themselves.

  • http://twitter.com/realfrequency Vatkeezy

    The same kind of thing happened recently to Toronto producer MoSS, who did “Have Mercy” on Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2. He gave them the beat years ago and it got lost in the mix and when it came time for crediting, he was left out. I understand that artists lives are hectic and that they have to delegate things like this to others within their camp, so I can see how this can happen, but at the end of the day, I think artists need to be more professional and respectful in insuring the artists they collaborate with are properly credited for their contributions. Kev giving this story a platform is a great thing though because it could could have gone unheard easily.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mindalteringdynamics Emay

    Word. I knew it was just a misunderstanding. And it wasn’t a big deal. Too many people jump to conclusions. Just have to chill and wait for REAL word to come out. eh.

  • Tenth

    Now that looks like an apology.
    At least we can correct the production credits to Wikipedia.
    I hope Kil gets another shot to show and prove.

  • Webb Traverse

    Just because Fame and Billy rhymed over your beat doesnt make it hot. Yeah yeah, i feel bad for you son, but “youre drums aint rare, nigga”. Just cuz you got your beat jacked don’t think you gon get put on. Shit happens, step ya game up. That sample is played out anyways – you need to dig like a fuckin archaelogist.

  • http://www.myspace.com/manzbeats manz

    I’m glad we have sites like yours Kev that can bring issues like this to light and hopefully will help someone not have this happen to them. You did the right thing posting Kil’s situation and reaching out to Fame’s peeps. Fame did the right thing by courteously responding. I hope this resolves the issue for Kil. Kil, Keep on that grind homie, hopefully only good things will come out of this for you. Peace.

  • Blacka

    …and I gave a beat CD to DR Dre years ago which became the Chronic album lol smh!

    Stop giving out your beats then they wont get used…

    Put fuckin background noise or Jingles behind it if u must, use your brains!

    You’re all so concerned about gettin famous you dont THINK about your options!

    Put a rapper on it if you have to…

    No idea’s original, its also highly likely that somebody had the same feeling as you (Shit happens often) and sampled the thing you sampled a week ago but used it better…

  • http://www.iigunzent.com DJTommyIIGunz

    Honestly I think this whole statement from Fame is BS. You gotta admit the official response about this seems very “George Bush 2003″
    He ripped the track and it’s obvious. He didn’t just rap over it like he said in the statement. He threw in a couple piano riffs so he could try and mask it. Now I could’ve understood if he’d said “Well I had the track and I couldn’t figure out who the producer was that did it. so I just put the joint out with my name on it so that when He spoke up on it I could Change the credits for him”
    That would’ve been more believable. But this statement is very OJ Simpson. “I didn’t kill Nicole” lol

  • Tommylux

    I think the problem lies with the way artists often go about putting their albums together. The rappers hear a beat and tell their manager to sort out the legal stuff and that’s where it all goes wrong. If it’s a beat that’s lifted from a beat tape that you got from somebody you met long ago at a concert and it’s not “brandmarked” well, what are you gonna tell the record company when they print the cover? Now I’m not a lawyer or anything and I don’t do business with beats but if I was to take this seriously, I’d go all over the beat like Alchemist with his annoying thing or lay an acapella over it. Customers could still try and redo it but that’s where your sample source better be as hard to trace as possible. If then an artist was interested to buy, I’d definitely make sure to get some kind of written and signed form or “receipt” that the beat was sold to so and so and that clearly states the producer credits. If you’re gonna sue an artist just on the base that you have a similar sounding beat at home, you’re gonna fall on deaf ears

  • okay

    Okay, so send the kid a check for his work and if the CD is pressed again give credit where credit is do. Enough said.

  • http://www.myspace.com/psymunsays Psymun

    i’m pretty sure this is as far as it’ll go. it’s not like Fame is gonna change his story, whether it’s true or not.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Sean Deez

    I’m happy with the fact that we put this issue on the pedestal and figured things out. The problem is though, I’m not satisfied with this response. As one commenter said, its not like he went out of his way to fix the problem, so he might as well be a part of it.

    Not only that, part of me doesn’t buy this response as genuine.

    However, I am somewhat relieved that I don’t have to hate MOP for the rest of my life. And I’m happy that Kil, the name is out there

  • http://www.pmpworldwide.com/Frost-Gamble Frost Gamble

    Major respect to http://www.kevinnottingham.com for helping to resolve this!

  • http://bikeandamic.net jobu

    artist “steals” song from unknown producer = producer sampling/chopping music that’s not there’s and claims reproduction/creation of entirely new song????????

  • Dr. MaD

    Laze!! Fire him!!

  • Casey

    You guys did a good job of breaking/creating this story, and getting it attention. However, you learned the lesson that a news source should always use unbiased language. Let the facts do the talking. I think this shows that people are listening to what is being said on this website, though.

    As for the actual issue, Fame’s statement here clarified it pretty well. Not MOP’s fault.

  • http://www.rockthedub.com/ khal

    what more can he say? he admitted to rhyming over the beat and not writing it – he said he gave credits to be added. they weren’t added properly. ask kid cudi about typos on album credits.

  • http://myspace.com/sttress1 S.T.T.R.E.S.S.

    My opinion of the whole situation has’nt changed cuz how do u go from the time that u record to a beat til the time u release a whole joint, to get all that info straight.U know that u did’nt make the beat, and apparently it wasnt enough effort made to get in touch with who did make it.Me in that situation,I want to know who did the beat that i’m spitting to and how did thet get it.Cuz 1,I would want to know if it’s legit so it wont come back to bite me in the ass(a la EVE and Swizz Beats).2, I would want to know just in case I wanting to get up with that cat again for another beat.And I would DEFINITELY check out everything before it’s pressed up and released, if nothing else but to check for spelling mistakes on the written content.That would be a first in the history of music if a song did’nt have a production credit.Let me go and put my boots on cuz it’s getting a little thick in here.SMH

  • RickDizzl

    You all need to calm down. Even the TRACKLIST on the BACK COVER was wrong, i mean how can you expect the production credits to be right then? it’s obvious the manager or some label-guy fucked this up. lil fame is one of the realest dudes in this game, i don’t think he did it on purpose.
    first family 4 life, bitches!!

  • Charity

    Kevin, I gotta disagree with Casey. If you run this site with a particular audience in mind, I thinks it’s good of you all to throw your opinions and gut reactions into the mix for the sake of that audience. Not everyone will like it, but then the site isn’t built for everyone. Enough online “news” outlets are already built around the premise of regurgitating press release language from one party or another and letting that dominate their posts — but this is hip hop, not health care. Let it breathe. Good work.

  • JJ

    What’s the normal protocol when a producer hands out a beat tape to an MC? Is the MC expected to pay for the beat? Or is he only expected to credit the producer?

    Just curious b/c it seems kind of weird that the dude isn’t getting any money for his work.

  • http://www.insidethelunchbox.com Lunchbox

    I think my artist Kil’s response was adequate. The explanation given from the other side…not so much. If this were in fact a “clerical” error that just means a typo. That means the email address on the CD was contacted, the name of the CD was contacted by the number on the CD, discussing his fee, terms of use, and credits. That was not done. Now…..I’m glad parties have contacted Kil to resolve this issue but it appears that there has been a lot of responsibility passing and no one owning up to anything. This happens to quite a many producers and lyricists quite often and for a second, MOP/Laze fell into that category. I hope to see this come to a very pleasant conclusion on both ends getting what they want so that I may be able to go back to blasting one of my favorite groups the right way…in my stereo, not on a website.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Thomas
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